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Hosted by Eric Dodds & John Wessel

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Two friends break down AI, technology, and entrepreneurship through mental models, real-world experience and the pursuit of a life well-lived.

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If Notion beats HubSpot, will they still lose to Claude?
Episode 15

If Notion beats HubSpot, will they still lose to Claude?

April 11, 2026•
AIBusiness

Notion could take out HubSpot, but the frontier providers are fighting a bigger war over who owns the interface, the context, and eventually the whole stack.

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AI burnout: the hardest parts of your job all day
Episode 14

AI burnout: the hardest parts of your job all day

April 4, 2026•
AIProductivity

AI is sold as a productivity miracle drug, and many have tasted the power. But in private conversations, they talk about redlining: higher expectations, more context switching, and smaller teams.

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Why the longest-running tech CEO still fears failure
Episode 13

Why the longest-running tech CEO still fears failure

March 28, 2026•
AILeadershipBusiness

Jensen Huang built NVIDIA into a trillion-dollar AI giant, but still works like survival isn’t guaranteed. Eric and John unpack fear, humility, market timing, and ingredients for enduring leadership.

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Can the way you talk to AI change you?
Episode 12

Can the way you talk to AI change you?

March 21, 2026•
AIHuman relationshipsParenting

What does talking to AI all day do to the way we think, relate, and communicate? Eric and John explore kids, companionship, human dignity, and why the line between person and machine matters.

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Why can't we find a metaphor for AI?
Episode 11

Why can't we find a metaphor for AI?

March 14, 2026•
AI

Stochastic parrot. Intern. Exoskeleton. Every AI metaphor shapes what you build and what you ignore, but the deeper question is why we can’t find a metaphor that fits.

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The new superpower is old: speed, craft, and AI
Episode 10

The new superpower is old: speed, craft, and AI

March 7, 2026•
AIBusiness

AI makes speed cheaper, but craft still sets the ceiling. Eric and John unpack a timeless superpower: being fast and good at your work, then explore how to develop it without burning out.

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Is AI productivity as simple as using more tokens?
Episode 9

Is AI productivity as simple as using more tokens?

February 28, 2026

How does Peter Steinberger spend $20k/month on tokens, and why? Based on their own experiments, Eric and John talk explain why autonomous loops are the next productivity frontier for AI.

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Navigating skill atrophy in the AI age
Episode 8

Navigating skill atrophy in the AI age

February 21, 2026•
AI

Eric stopped using AI for personal writing. Why? As you outsource to AI, you must decide which skills to keep sharp. Hand-coding is fading, but thinking, storytelling, and taste are timeless.

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Will Notion dethrone HubSpot with AI?
Episode 7

Will Notion dethrone HubSpot with AI?

February 14, 2026•
AIBusiness

AI is producing counter-intuitive competition. Notion’s connected ecosystem, architecture, and cash make it a threat…if the hyperscalers don’t eat the app layer.

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The map is not the territory
Episode 6

The map is not the territory

February 7, 2026•
AIMental models

How do you navigate the pace of AI disruption? This mental model helps you decode AI hype, catch cartographer bias, and avoid being blinded by the past.

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Text message bankruptcy, OpenClaw, and 20 years of email data
Episode 5

Text message bankruptcy, OpenClaw, and 20 years of email data

January 31, 2026•
LifeAI

Eric hits 247 unread texts, meets OpenClaw, and reminisces on Merlin Mann’s “pebble problem”. He and John learn why messaging is now entertainment and pave a path towards better communication.

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Sunk cost, AI deniers, and Elon talks with Jesus
Episode 4

Sunk cost, AI deniers, and Elon talks with Jesus

January 24, 2026•
AI

Sunk cost in the AI era: John and Eric define the bias, share candid stories, and show how identity, tech debt, and market shifts demand pivots, reality checks and the freedom of starting over.

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AI's chat interface problem and Lobe's imaginary seed round
Episode 3

AI's chat interface problem and Lobe's imaginary seed round

January 18, 2026•
AILobeShorts

Eric and John riff on Lobe's seed round, then dive deep on why chat is the wrong UI for most AI. They unpack the blank page problem, why context matters, and how embedded AI will replace chat.

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Bottlenecks mental model & tool time with Zo Computer
Episode 2

Bottlenecks mental model & tool time with Zo Computer

January 10, 2026•
Mental modelsTool Time

Eric and John discuss bottlenecks as a mental model, uncovering why constraints are leverage, not blockers. Hands-on Tool Time is with Zo Computer, a stateful, powerful, AI-enabled cloud computer.

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The Inner Ring & creating an AI startup on demand
Episode 1

The Inner Ring & creating an AI startup on demand

January 4, 2026•
AIEntrepreneurshipLife

Eric and John invent “Lobe,” a screenless AI for dream capture, then unpack C.S. Lewis’s “Inner Ring” to explore status, AI FOMO, and the long game of craft, character, trust, and defining “enough.”

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